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On Tuesday, August 20, 2002, at 07:23  AM, Justin Mason wrote:

>> The compensate rule USER_AGENT should go or at least score 
>> very low; with
>> it, a spammer just has to include a header like
>
> BTW, the scores are irrelevant right now (unless the test is 
> going to have
> a non-GA'd score).  The GA should reduce "easy" ones, and if it 
> doesn't,
> after the GA run is the time to comment.  Don't pay any 
> attention to them!
> ;)

Remember that the GA is going to be considering combinatorial 
uses of the rules, so rules which look dodgy on their own might 
be gems for the GA -- perhaps something with a S/O ratio of .5 
actually occurs often in combination with some other rule, and 
in those situations, helps to distinguish spam vs nonspam.

C



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