Test me

\chapter{This is the chapter}
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\chapter{Another}
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Here on \hyperref{}{amuse}{here}{page \pageref*{textamuse:here}} we talk,
and \hyperref{}{amuse}{there}{on page \pageref*{textamuse:there}} of another.